In a conversation with Tucker Carlson, former Bush administration official and founder of the Solari company, Catherine Austin Fitts lays bare in great detail how America’s leaders gave up on the country in the 1990s, began stealing trillions and set in motion the organisation of a digital prison to control the population. (i) She also tells Carlson that, in spite of all the doom and gloom, she refuses to let “the devil have her joy” and destroy her “state of amusement”. That emotion is, quite visibly, the dominant one in her life. She admits that it’s not always easy to deal with pure evil and that you’re always “gonna be shocked by it”, especially when, “if you understand love, you can’t fathom why anyone would reject that and embrace evil.”
Call on the Divine
Most of the issues addressed in the conversation concern concealed flows of vast amounts of money, the scheming and shenanigans of Central Bankers, and the “digital concentration camp” in which “Mr. Global” is trying to lock us up. Nonetheless, Austin Fitts reveals that she sees the “battle” for freedom as a spiritual one. “I believe,” she said, that “ultimately, freedom can prevail and there’s many things we can do to help that happen. But ultimately this is a spiritual war and you have to call on God, you have to call on the Divine, and that’s where the battle is ultimately gonna be decided, and that means, literally, I believe this is true, the divine intelligence cannot go to work unless we’re willing to face it, you know, we have to look at it, we have to pray, we have to ask for help and we have to deal with it. The real solutions will be cultural. There will be millions of people acting in their own life refusing to be controlled individually.” (at 29:00)
Christianity
Austin Fitts stresses that she is primarily “interested in freedom” and that she believes that “the only way we can be free is through a culture that embraces the divine”. Only this will allow us to “build true wealth, enduring wealth and living wealth, not just financial wealth.” (at 1:11:00) To attain true wealth “you need Christianity”. As she explained in a recent video on her own Solari website, “if you’re a Christian, you have a different pricing mode in your head. There are things that can be priced in a market place and there are some things that can’t be priced, cause they are invaluable, they are not to be traded … and you’re not going to sell your immortal soul for a quick profit.” (ii)
Relationship with your Creator
In her meeting with Carlson, she explained: “If you’re gonna be part of a project that is longer than a lifetime, then you have to understand that this is about, you know, at the root, this is about your immortal soul. Your soul is immortal and that triggers a different way of looking at the world and a different way of thinking and then you have to be able to collaborate accross time and space in very powerful ways … that takes trust and faith.” (at 1:04:00) This worldview is clearly reflected in the mission statement that is posted on the website of her Solari company: “to help you live a free and inspired life. This includes building wealth in ways that build real wealth in the wider economy. We believe that personal and family wealth is a critical ingredient of both individual freedom and community health and well-being.” Discussing the work of Solari, she tells Carlson that the first “Pillar” on which its mission rests holds that if you have a goal, the key to reach it is acknowledging and accepting that “you have a relationship with your Creator.”
Divine Happiness
I assume that Austin Fitts won’t mind if I interpret her and Solari’s mission as helping people in exercising their unalienable right to pursue happiness. As the authors of the American Declaration of Independence so firmly held and declared, this unalienable right was endowed to Man by his Creator. Considering the fact that the Creator of Man is commonly understood as being the God of Genesis, the Happiness mentioned in the Declaration cannot be understood as anything other than Divine Happiness or “eudaimonia”. And because it is also written in Genesis that God created Man in His image, and that God’s Name and His Whole Beingness may be summed up in the words “I am”, the pursuit of Divine Happiness must of necessity entail Man’s pursuit of attaining “Oneness” with his Creator, with God, in the Divine state of being “I am”. And this, of course, is only possible when, in the words of Austin Fitts, “you have a relationship with your creator.”
Man’s ultimate Telos
Jesus Christ spoke of the Divine Oneness as Man’s ultimate Telos and how its pursuit requires first of all the change of mind that He called “Metanoia”. Plato had described Man’s turning around from the temporal to the eternal, from one’s shadow to the light that causes it, as “periagoge”. In my book Liberating Liberty, I describe how the various “murderers of God” sought and, to a large degree, succeeded in obstructing Man’s pursuit of his Divine Telos by redirecting the search from the eternal to the temporal, from God to Man. In our age of technocracy, the redirecting has reached an unprecedented level of efficiency because, technically speaking, it can quite easily be finetuned to misguide, coerce and influence each person who is digitally connected to the “control grid”. For the “millions of people acting in their own life refusing to be controlled individually”, Austin Fitts’ message is clear and simple. Keep your eye on the ball. You will be successful only when you realize that you’re fighting a war that is spiritual. And, above all, while fighting this war, do not lose your state of amusement and do not let the devil have your joy.
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[i] Tucker Carlson Network; Conversation between Tucker Carlson and Catherine Austin Fitts; Published: 29 April 2025; https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-catherine-fitts
[ii] Conversation with Daniel Broudy; Human sovereignty and agency in the age of technocracy – a dialogue with Catherine Austin Fitts; Published: 24 April 2025; https://tube.solari.com/videos/human-sovereignty-and-agency-in-the-age-of-technocracy-a-dialogue-with-catherine-austin-fitts/
